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Alright guys, looks like this one's wrapped up. This is as far as I'll go with only inks here. I'll be throwing minor details over the colored version as I move along.

I'll prob show the page progress for 1-3 as you guys have already seen them.

Im not too excited about this page to be honest... but, I'm just learning this digital inking thing.

How do you guys feel about me livestreaming these?

Anyway, if there's some colorists that want to give this a go, be my guest.


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What program are you using?

I think the thing that really sticks out to me is the motion lines on the plane in the first panel and then again for the explosion. They are rectangular. They don't taper off. Not sure if you just did the line tool or rectangular selection, but there should be a way for both to thin out.

The other problem I've had with digital inking is wobbly lines, especially in photoshop but also in painter to a lesser degree.

My favorite part is the inking on the eyes of the pilot in the second panel. Looks crisp. Not sure if it is the thinner lines or what. The lines do get pretty heavy in the bottom panels. I'd also watch for how your line ends and begins. Last panel, the zombie with the hello i'm bill, the line that is the lower part of his left shoulder starts as a rounded line. This should prolly also tapper off as the shoulder goes into the upper arm. Maybe even curve back around.

You may want to turn up the settings on your brushes that allow for greater sensitivity for line weight. I think maybe the thinner the line with digital the less noticeable it becomes that the line never varies in width. Once it gets thick, you can really see how uniform it is.

Also watch out for overlapping lines, especially when they are perfect lines. Like in the buildings and the speed lines. Bottom panel there is a building sitting on another building. and the boom speed lines cut into the exposed re-bar.

Good stuff though man, looking forward to seeing more as you learn the ins and outs of digi-inks.

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Mood: Joy *Ricky-Martinez Nov 17, 2010   Digital Artist
ah, thanks for the great advice dude! I really appreciate it. Yes, the boldness of the lines is def cause it's digital and my lack of experience lol im def working on that though. i'll be putting up another page soon, it def had more line variations. let me know what you think when i put it up :) btw dude, i have a folder or "insperational art" the piece you did, for a cover I think, it's a chick and a red bike... that's in my insperation folder :thumbsup:

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Looking forward to the next one.

Thanks for the props on the piece I did. Made my day.

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Mood: Joy *Ricky-Martinez Nov 18, 2010   Digital Artist
damn I just read the comment i posted before this one lol forgive the spelling, I was typing blind. the internet here at work sucks.
i was trying to say "i have a folder OF insperational art" lol yeah man, good stuff :)

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:iconmorphl:
think the second pannel(?) worked out best

what i would try:
-to let the clothings etc look not so part of the persons who wear em ... got some language barrier here :/ (pannel 3 and 4 clothings on the woman etc.. look for me as they are actually that woman)
-dont know if its the digital inking, but this looks so ... perfect? i mean the lines are so rounded, sometimes it looks for me if u try to ink this without some improvision(?) i think that some more freestylish accents would make your inkings much more lively and would make the inkins really bring the emotions/feeling of the inked more intense to the viewer - i think some not so perfect parts of the whole often bring some taste to things
-i really would encourage you to maybe try ink with a real brush .. maybe its not your style, but i think the traditional working tools really bring some accent for themselves to art :)

hope i did not insult you :/ dont really know for myself to which point a inker should alter pencils, but i remember something out of a book: (something like that) "now we come to the art of advanced shadowing(?), FUCK light sources, just draw shadows that the picture itself looks good, u can be realistic but often this results in some lame stuff, or you just can make it look really badass with just looking for the best way to express this pannel without thinking about 100% realistic drawing"

try to get more flavor to your inking :) work on, practice is allways a good way to get better :)
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Mood: Joy *Ricky-Martinez Nov 1, 2010   Digital Artist
very true dude, no offense, I gig good critiques and you make perfect sense. right now, there's no excuse for me. it's just lack of experience on my side. but that's what this whole thing is about... getting experience. the biggest reason why im inking digitally is because it's gonna be a pain printing the pages, inking them, then scanning them again, then coloring them. when, i'll prob get close to the same results as if I were using a brush. then, another huge reason im going digital is because I'll be deploying in a year, i'll have my wacom and laptop... they'll be my bread and butter, I won't be able to carry all sorts of pages, rulers, pencils, inks etc with me. I'll just need my bag with my wacom and laptop. so i have to get used to it now. it's something I need to do. later, I will learn traditional inking for sure though. im also sure in a few more pages, I'll get the hang of it. page 2 is already looking much better. so much better, I wanna go back and re-do page 1... but then i'll never get anywhere. I give whatever Im working on 100%... then I move on and learn from my mistakes. I think that's where a lot of people get stuck. they freeze on something and never move forward becuase they strive for perfection. the greatest advice anyone ever told me was "don't strive for perfection" and that was from :iconnefar007:
to me, it let me free myself from all the worries. David Finch also says "you're only capable of doing what you can at that time"
so this page and prob the rest of my work for the next two years, will be full of flaws... and the only real reason why is lack of experience.
but I do appreciate the advice though dude, keep it coming :)

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"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives."
~Ty~
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:iconmorphl:
forgot something: pannel 2 really got some dept with the dark background/light foreground. optical seperation(may it be blacks or shading n stuff) brings some dept + living to inkin too. :)
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:iconmorphl:
something i learned for myself was: after doing something, look back and ask yourself what have i done good, what not so good, and what misses that i can do better. "perfection" will come this way, but just trying to be perfect without these steps will hinder me atleast ^^

i for myself just love this ink and brush :X got myself not a wacom but something like that, but its just not mine likewise ^^ but trying out something just gives you some other flavors of how art could be done

work on :D and have fun with it
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~rammsteinroxsofi Oct 25, 2010  Student Digital Artist
awesome!!! great linework :D haha
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Mood: Joy *Ricky-Martinez Oct 25, 2010   Digital Artist
thanks :)

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"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives."
~Ty~
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